tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post115635718193941704..comments2024-03-06T05:30:41.694-05:00Comments on Pho's Akron Pages: Beacon Watch: Don't Watch the Beacon UpdatedScott Piephohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05849171870929674248noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156481668354073452006-08-25T00:54:00.000-04:002006-08-25T00:54:00.000-04:00Again, I weigh in with my argument that reading ar...Again, I weigh in with my argument that reading articles online doesn't give you the whole paper experience. If you're not subscribing to the paper and just plucking off articles online, you're getting a totally different experience than reading the hard version. <BR/><BR/>Not sure that papers have had a whole lot of success with online subs. ... the Columbus Dispatch tried it -- now the Dispatch's site is again free.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156458884596285322006-08-24T18:34:00.000-04:002006-08-24T18:34:00.000-04:00Overhead is overhead and revenue is revenue. You h...Overhead is overhead and revenue is revenue. You have to stay in the black ( yeah I get it) no matter what your business model is. And if you don't think WKSU and WAPS depend on advertising revenue, then listen a little more closely. True, it's not Clarke Ford screaming at you, but it's there. <BR/><BR/>You support what you care about. There's nothing specious about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156451829044203892006-08-24T16:37:00.000-04:002006-08-24T16:37:00.000-04:00Well Mencken, Ohio.com is subsidized by the advert...Well Mencken, Ohio.com is subsidized by the advertising that it sells. WKSU is a non-profit and is funded by lister donations and some government support. Two completely different business models, so your argument is a bit specious.<BR/><BR/>Again, I don't disagree with Black Press make moves to run a more profitable business. I just don't understand why they fail to see the problems inherent with selling a product in one form (paper) while giving it away for free in another (Ohio.com).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156438943946107832006-08-24T13:02:00.000-04:002006-08-24T13:02:00.000-04:00I don't know Swanny, why leave anymore than 5% toy...I don't know Swanny, why leave anymore than 5% to<BR/>your waitress? I mean it's not like they'll ban you from the restaurant. Why should you send money to WKSU or WAPS when you can listen for free ? Do you want to ensure good service? Do want to wake up some morning to dead air ? Why pay for iTunes when you can steal the music for free using Limewire? Do you support a free press and intellectual property or don't you ?<BR/><BR/>My point is still -how can anyone call Black Press cheap bastards when you won't pay for the product in the first place ? It's like a bread thief complaining<BR/>the bread is stale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156437960081370652006-08-24T12:46:00.000-04:002006-08-24T12:46:00.000-04:00Mencken, Why buy the cow when you can get the milk...Mencken, Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? Why should I buy and ABJ when I can read the same stories on their website for free? I can't think of any other business that operates under this model. More and more newspapers are going to an online subscription, which is exactly where I see the ABJ heading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156434040486970342006-08-24T11:40:00.000-04:002006-08-24T11:40:00.000-04:00Go Mencken. You hit the nail on the head. My mind ...Go Mencken. You hit the nail on the head. My mind reels that people will pay $1.75 or more for a Starbucks, Angel Falls (which would be a better thing!) or whatever-coffee-shop-you-choose and think nothing of it.<BR/> Plus, it's difficult to get a sense of the paper online. Sure, you can read individual stories online, but you don't have a sense of all that's there. It's like looking at an abbreviated menu that leaves out a lot of the best dishes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156428391109569822006-08-24T10:06:00.000-04:002006-08-24T10:06:00.000-04:00Just wondering if more folks got the Beacon seven ...Just wondering if more folks got the Beacon seven days a week rather than just on the weekends, would the Beacon be in better shape? The righteous indignation is touching and all of that, but how many of you are putting your money where your mouth is ? If the Beacon ain't worth an extra $1.75<BR/>(Monday thru Friday) a week, I'm not sure what all the whining is about here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156425331463134822006-08-24T09:15:00.000-04:002006-08-24T09:15:00.000-04:00Go Rich. News of the layoffs was on the biz front....Go Rich. News of the layoffs was on the biz front. Pho must not read that section. Blogs like this ain't the problem, though. It's advertisers going to Monster.com, inserts, direct mail, fractured TV markets (networks, cable) other mass media venues. There are a lot more pieces in the ad space pie and yes circulation does play a role. In addition, advertisers are consolidating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156425294443379852006-08-24T09:14:00.001-04:002006-08-24T09:14:00.001-04:00Go Rich. News of the layoffs was on the biz front....Go Rich. News of the layoffs was on the biz front. Pho must not read that section. Blogs like this ain't the problem, though. It's advertisers going to Monster.com, inserts, direct mail, fractured TV markets (networks, cable) other mass media venues. There are a lot more pieces in the ad space pie and yes circulation does play a role. In addition, advertisers are consolidating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156425251025728982006-08-24T09:14:00.000-04:002006-08-24T09:14:00.000-04:00Go Rich. News of the layoffs was on the biz front....Go Rich. News of the layoffs was on the biz front. Pho must not read that section. Blogs like this ain't the problem, though. It's advertisers going to Monster.com, inserts, direct mail, fractured TV markets (networks, cable) other mass media venues. There are a lot more pieces in the ad space pie and yes circulation does play a role. In addition, advertisers are consolidating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156391484245610942006-08-23T23:51:00.000-04:002006-08-23T23:51:00.000-04:00to be fair....the front page of the business secti...to be fair....the front page of the business section did have coverage of the layoffs. I am disappointed in all of this. Eric Mansfields blog quoted Mr. Black and his thoughts on newsroom staffers. But, bottonline, electronic journalism, including blogs like this, are resulting in decreased sales and lost advertising dollars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13368104.post-1156362882103983842006-08-23T15:54:00.000-04:002006-08-23T15:54:00.000-04:00How can Black Press focus on local stories when th...How can Black Press focus on local stories when they are getting rid of local writers? Sounds like a prelude to disaster for the venerable ABJ. It also sounds like someone at Black is busy managing the P&L statement to bring expenses back in line with revenue. <BR/><BR/>What exactly does this mean? Simple, cut local talent to a minimum and run wire stories for most of the content. They can spread the cost of the wire feed across every newspaper in the chain. You can bet someone at Black Press is getting a nice year-end bonus for slicing $2.3 million out of the ABJ newsroom. <BR/><BR/>My guess is that this is only the beginning of cost cutting. By the end of the year, the ABJ will have a headcount of 50% of what it started with at the beginning of the year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com